FSC is not dropping to 0 - 3D Refinement

Hi everyone,

I’m running the final Non-Uniform Refinement in CryoSPARC, but I’m encountering an issue with the FSC curve.

Here are some details:

  • Final particle number: ~230,000

  • particle diameter : 100 Å

  • Refinement: Non-Uniform Refinement

  • Symmetry: C1 (or your symmetry if different)

  • I already performed one round of **Remove Duplicate Particles (**min_dist_A at 40 Å) before the final refinement.

  • The refinement finishes normally, but the FSC curve does not drop to 0 at high spatial frequencies. Instead, it remains above zero.

I’m wondering what could cause this behavior.

Could this indicate that:

  • there are still duplicate particles remaining?

  • overfitting or masking issues?

  • some other processing problem?

Has anyone experienced something similar? Any suggestions on what I should check would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Likely some duplicate particles. Have you tried remove duplicates?

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Yes , I do removing duplicate particles before refinement

Increase the distance and check again. I would suggest 60-80% of your particle diameter.

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Thanks very much for your advice. I then removed duplicate particles using min_dist_A = 80 Å (my protein is approximately 100 Å in size), but I still obtained similar results.

What CS version are you using? In earlier versions there was an issue with remove duplicates:

What happens if you manually specify the micrograph pixel size?

Oli

Thanks, I’m using CryoSPARC v4.7.1. The particles were picked and extracted in v4.7.1, and no Fourier cropping or binning was used, so the particle and micrograph pixel sizes are identical.