Topaz optimization

Dear all,

I am very new in the single particle area. I recently working on a SPA dataset, and I want to use Topaz to optimize the particle selection. My particle is like a ring, I tried to use a blob picker and several rounds template picking, however, I don’t think I have got all particles, and many particles are off centered. While I am using topaz on 500 micrographs, I did not get a good curve in the precision, and I have tried several rounds, it stayed at low precision range (below 0.1). I am wondering what parameters I can tune and any suggestings tips will be super helpful!

My protein complex diameter: 190A in diameter, 140A in height. It has a preferred orientation (top and bottom views), and have some side views.

The 2D template using attached below and Topaz parameters I also attached along with the 2 rounds of training.

Super thanks!
Hong



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@alexjamesnoble might have some ideas?

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Hi Hong,

Average-Precision values are relative numbers, meaning that you shouldn’t worry about what the number is, just that the curve generally increases monotonically. Have you tried extracting particles?

A couple things to note: 1) The expected number of particles is an important parameter that you should try to optimize. You can use cross-validation to optimize it. 2) The average-precision hasn’t plateaued yet. Try increasing the number of epochs to get a better model. Also, you can turn on pretrained initialization to decrease the training time with minimal affect on model performance.

Best,
-Alex

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Thanks Vamsee! abd Alex! SOrry for the delay in reply.

I have tried extract using the model I got, and I doubled size of my particles, and I got more different views other than just top/bottom-like views.

I will try to change parameters as you suggested.

Super thanks!
Hong

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